Here's the first set from a recent performance Ted's Warren Commission did at the Jazz Bistro. Happy Holidays everyone!
Friday, December 23, 2022
Ted's Warren Commission Jazz Bistro Dec. 6
Monday, December 19, 2022
Podcast interview: Suicide Zen Forgiveness
About a year ago I gave an interview to host Elaine Lindsay on her Suicide Zen Forgiveness podcast. I thought this might be a good time to post this. It can be a very hard time of year for those who struggle due to suicides in their family or their own suicidal thoughts. In the interview I discussed my sister's suicide in summer 1991 and its effect on me and my family. I am currently aiming to be more forthcoming about my family's history of mental health challenges, as well as my own. We have to end the shame and stigmatization about this! Finally, if you need to talk to someone, help is available.
Please enjoy your holidays and let's take care of each other……..
Monday, December 12, 2022
More make-work brush projects….
I think I posted this in 4/4 but here's a 3/4 brush pattern where the RH taps out the standard 3/4 ride beat and the LH slides in quintuplets , making a star shape.
One time, when I showed this to a student, he remarked, "You must have a lot of time on your hands." He wasn't wrong…… See last week's post on perspective for balance!
Wednesday, December 7, 2022
Perspective
So, the other day, I was working on playing triplets of 5 and 7 note length stickings w/ my right foot playing with my right hand. I was working on this in 3/4 with hi-hat playing the Viennese waltz ( + of 1 and beat 3) thing. The actual idea I was working on isn't important. What's important is I started thinking about this tune after the practice session…..
While it's true Don Henley's performance here won't get him invited to any drum festivals, I WOULD VIEW THAT AS A POSITIVE! As someone who has had to work very hard to play on the back of the beat and leave space, this is some serious drum concept! If you don't think it is, try playing along with it!
So, this is a good reminder for me about the beauty of simplicity and eloquence! Thank you Mr. Henley.
Also, if the video gets taken down later ( Eagles tend to be a particularly litigious bird) look up "I Can't Tell You Why" by the Eagles off of "The Long Run". An album that simply hasn't gotten its due because it was preceded by "Hotel California". Have fun and see you soon.
Monday, December 5, 2022
Tomorrow Night! (Dec. 6th!) The Triumphant Telltale Tremendous Tones of Ted's Warren Commission
NOTE: Just because I said it was triumphant, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll play any Triumph tunes. (although anything is possible.)
Okay! The deets….
THE PIZZA DEBATE CONTINUES!!!!!
Tuesday Dec. 6th, 8PM
Jazz Bistro, 251 Victoria St., Toronto
$20
Allison Au- Alto (Obviously an "A" student)
Ted Quinlan- Guitar (With many Quinlans of pedals)
Mike Downes- Bass (From the land of K-Tel and Pic-a-Pop)
Ted Warren- Traps (All kinds)
C'mon out and avoid Holiday Shopping (Unless you're shopping for an earful of delight!)
Monday, November 28, 2022
King Crimson in concert 29th September 1982 , Munich,
Just stumbled on to this. I really feel that Robert Fripp and his various incarnations of King Crimson haven't gotten enough credit for creating such interesting and innovative music for (with a break or two) for almost 50 years. I'm posting this live concert from the '80s of my favourite version of the band, with Fripp, Belew, Bruford, and Levin. It's been said that this is the most commercial of the Crimson line-ups, but in Fripp's world, I think that commercialism is pretty relative! Dig this…..
Monday, November 21, 2022
Haphazard?
Further to most post last week about looseness, I'd like to talk about something regarding a conversation I had at my side hustle gig recently. The subject of Jazz came up, and this individual stated he didn't like it because he found it "haphazard". Now, I understand to a new listener, the music must seem random and people just "play anything", but as one acquires more knowledge and experience, it becomes very clear how many obstacles one navigates to even create a mediocre performance. To demonstrate, I thought I would list just a few of the things I am thinking about and mentally juggling while playing improvised music….
As a drummer…
-Making sure the tempo is steady (if the tune isn't rubato)
-creating a beautiful cymbal and drum sound
-trying to create and maintain a pleasing groove with the bassist and rest of the band
-remembering and relating to the form
- "" "" "" the melody
- interacting with and supporting the soloist
-constantly accessing my dynamics, both as a whole and each limb individually
- figuring out how I can represent the different sections of a tune's performance (e.g. Head vs. Solos, differentiating between soloists etc.) and what the trajectory of the whole tune will be
-and much more….
As a pianist/soloist
-representing the tune's harmony accurately
-deciding on comping rhythms/voicings
-deciding on whether to comp at all
-playing correct notes on the chord changes
-hearing and relating to the melody
-supporting and reacting to other soloists
-what rhythms and articulations to play during a solo
- deciding length of solo
-gaging relative volume
-and much more…..
In conclusion, when improvising, one is making split second decisions that will affect the success of the performance constantly! Just because one doesn't know exactly what one is going to play, doesn't mean there aren't infinite high level decisions going on based on years of practice, listening, and development of taste! Happy listening!
Monday, November 14, 2022
In praise of looseness
When one is playing improvised music, perfection isn't really a useful concept. If one plays "perfectly" one night, does one play the exact thing again? Then it's not improvisation. I have played improvised performances most of my life, so I tend to favour music that sounds fresh and not preplanned. For example, I like the Police more than Sting solo, I don't think most Beatles covers improve on them at all, and definitely Van Halen is superior to Van Hagar! The feeling of music that is being made "without a net" is one I greatly cherish. For certain, I like Steely Dan and symphonic music too, but "in the moment" is where my heart lives.
Wednesday, November 9, 2022
Avi Granite's "In Good Hands" Album release this Saturday at The Jazz Bistro in Toronto
Monday, November 7, 2022
Sound!
What's the first thing we hear when anyone plays an instrument? Their sound. Yet we spend very little time talking about it. I'd like to offer my opinions on the subject, and remember, they are purely mine.
1. Very little of your sound comes from the gear you're using.
Recently, I played a jam session and two very talented young drummers came up and played. One was someone who had played in the church and it was evident he had been heavily influenced by Gospel music. As soon as he started to play, the cymbals got quieter, the hi-hat and snare drum sounded much drier than before, etc. Then another drummer sat in ( in think she was from Ecuador and was here studying Music in College) and when she played, the cymbals all became crashes rather than rides, and the toms took on a beefier and more predominant tone, aided by a healthy dose of rimshots played on all the drums (except the bd.) Now, both these individuals were playing my drums, and I'm sure they sounded different when I played them. Why? Because we were all hearing different things! At that point I realized that sound develops as one listens and discovers one's taste in music, long before an instrument is touched! As good as these players were, I don't believe either of them had been playing as long as me, but already their sounds were fairly established and continuing to develop. Speaking of which……
2. Your sound develops as your taste evolves.
I'm sure I sounded a lot more like Peter Criss in the late '70s than I do now. Partially, because I hadn't heard a lot of music and didn't have a lot to draw upon. The music that turns us on effects our touch, ideas, tuning, dynamics, cymbal choice etc. and that all comes out in the sound we make. Conversely, if I never had heard Tony Williams or Elvin Jones, I'm absolutely sure I would sound very different than I do now. Also…
3. Your sound continues to grow and change.
This is especially true if one keeps studying and learning. I have heard much more World, Classical, and R n' B than when I was a young person, and that has changed my sound significantly. Even the physical limits of aging (as well as the greater common sense and erosion of ego that goes with it) changes one's sound.
4. Your sound becomes more prominent as you accept and understand it.
The more you understand the sort of player you want to be, and the effect you want to create when you perform, the clearer your intent will be. This cannot be overstated. The intent creates the sound. I'll repeat that. The intent creates the sound.
Of course, there are so many great drummers I could use as examples of sound, but i thought I would post this footage of Louis Bellson ( a big early influence for me) in 1992. Check out his snare drum sound. Magic.
Monday, October 31, 2022
Stewart Copeland's Isolated Drum Track on "Don't Stand So Close To Me"
Monday, October 24, 2022
On Composition
I must admit it feels slightly pretentious of me to be posting about music writing, but I've been composing Jazz tunes since the mid-80s (and Pop tunes WAY before that) so I thought I'd like to share a few things I've learned along the way.
1. It's been my experience that the more one writes, the easy it is to compose the next time.
Now, as the drug ads go, results may vary, but I find composition begets composition for me. I put myself on a "compose every day" diet at the beginning of the fall, and I'm amazed what's come out! And related to that…..
2. Don't feel that everything you write has to see the light of day
It's more important to go through the act of writing than worry about anybody hearing it. Along those same lines, don't be afraid to go back to fragments and ideas you may have given up on and continue editing them. The tune itself will tell you when you're finished.
3. Vary your writing method to keep your compositions fresh
George Colligan's great (and currently hibernating) Blog has some excellent suggestions for this. In a nutshell, force yourself to approach writing differently, to shake it up……
4. Ask for help….
Drummers tend to be the least harmonically advanced members of the band, so hit up your bandmates for help and suggestions. I have played many a tune for people like bassist Mike Downes, and guitarists Ted Quinlan and Dawn Thomson, and they were very generous with their advice. After all, if the drummer's tune makes more sense, then it'll be easier for everyone else to play on!
Alright! Everyone get writing…..
Wednesday, October 19, 2022
Avi Granite's In Good Hands - Album Teaser
Hey all,
I will also make a post about the upcoming album release gig for this next month, but for now, here's some great video and audio for Avi's new release. He explains the concept really well too! Also, as far as I know, this is the first time in his long career Pat LaBarbera has recorded solo saxophone. How cool is that? :)
Monday, October 17, 2022
What are chops, anyway?
We really need to move away from this idea that the best drummer is the one that can move their hands and feet the fastest. There's enough cold and robotic playing already, thanks! Listen for everything a player can contribute ON AN ACTUAL INSTRUMENT AND WITH A BAND! Speed is just a tiny part of it.
Now, let's conclude with Sunny Murray and then Han Bennink being beautiful and expressive on the drums…..
Thursday, October 13, 2022
Seven Solos in Seven Days Part 7:Streets
I recently looked at my calendar and realized I wasn't playing much. Instead of complaining and getting depressed about it, I would record a solo every day for a week. The solos are all improvised, and created from the first thing I play when I sit down at the instrument……
Wednesday, October 12, 2022
Seven Solos in Seven Days Part 6: Alternatives
I recently looked at my calendar and realized I wasn't playing much. Instead of complaining and getting depressed about it, I would record a solo every day for a week. The solos are all improvised, and created from the first thing I play when I sit down at the instrument……
Monday, October 10, 2022
How drumming has helped my mental health
Today is World Mental Health Day (as well as Canadian Thanksgiving) , and with that in mind I thought I would share my own mental health journey, and how it relates to my drumming.
Depression runs in my family. My father had it, and it eventually took my sister's life. As an obese, glasses wearing kid who wasn't good at sports, I was bullied a lot in grade school. I found school in general difficult and frustrating (I now believe I had a learning disability) and rarely did any class speak to me. I started playing drums at ten, and it's hard to describe the many things it has done for me, but here goes.
-It installed in me a feeling of pride as I began to understand and develop techniques.
-It led me to countless friendships and experiences through musical associations
-It gave a purpose to everyday, whether things were going well or poorly
-It allowed me to use my imagination
-I was given a chance to develop something OUTSIDE of school
-I get to use my hands and feet to sculpt in sound everyday
-I have learned so much and gotten so much pleasure out of all styles of music
-I have learned how to focus my mind and relax, even in stressful situations
-I get to reach people and give them pleasure without even knowing or speaking to them
-I can do something that makes me forget about myself and feel that I am a part of something bigger
-Independent coordination has allowed me to develop many new neural pathways
-Music has helped me become a kinder and more empathetic person
-Playing makes me feel like I have something positive to offer the world
-I am able to help others reach their drumming and musical dreams
These are just a few of the things being a musician has done for me. I don't want anyone to get the idea that its been all roses, but sticking with it yields me rewards every day, and I still view music as a true gift.
Speaking of gifts, here's a huge one in the form of Keith Jarrett's trio. Thanks so much for the music.
Sunday, October 9, 2022
Seven Solos In Seven Days (Just not in a row!) Part 5: Pigeon's Song of Thanksgiving
I recently looked at my calendar and realized I wasn't playing much. Instead of complaining and getting depressed about it, I would record a solo every day for a week. The solos are all improvised, and created from the first thing I play when I sit down at the instrument……
Today I enlist a chorus of my fine feathered friends……
Saturday, October 8, 2022
Seven Solos in Seven Days Part 4 : Post-Intermission
Thursday, September 29, 2022
Seven Solos in Seven Days Part 3 - For Han Bennink
UPDATE: Thanks to a newly developed illness (Rhymes with "bovid". I knew my luck wouldn't hold out forever.) I will be pausing this and will record the last 4 solos next week sometime. Thank you for your patience…..
I recently looked at my calendar and realized I wasn't playing much. Instead of complaining and getting depressed about it, I would record a solo every day for a week. The solos are all improvised, and created from the first thing I play when I sit down at the instrument……
On to day 3. A piece on brushes dedicated to a very inspiring individual….
Wednesday, September 28, 2022
Seven Solos In Seven Days- Part 2 A Good Day For Bad Hair
I recently looked at my calendar and realized I wasn't playing much. Instead of complaining and getting depressed about it, I would record a solo every day for a week. The solos are all improvised, and created from the first thing I play when I sit down at the instrument……
Okay, day 2. The title for this came from the realization that, despite my continuing best efforts, I STILL CUT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ON THE VIDEO. Oh well…. enjoy.
Tuesday, September 27, 2022
Seven solos in Seven days- Part 1 Echoes of Daylight
Monday, September 26, 2022
Young Ted vs. Old Ted: A "lively" discussion
The following is an imagined conversation between 18 year old and current day (57 yrs.) me. We are meeting in a club at a jam session…..
Old Ted: Hey son, you sound great. May I talk to you a bit about what you played?
Young Ted: Um… I guess so, but you're not my Dad. Also, should you be standing up right now? A person of your advanced age should probably be sitting.
OT: What? ( These young punks…) Anyway, did you know the form of that tune you were playing?
YT: Form? Yeah, it was medium swing tune.
OT: Well, that's the style, but there's more to it than that. Do you know the melody to that tune, "Sonny Moon for Two?"
YT: No, I would have read it, but I forgot my Real Book. What are you getting at anyway, Gramps?
OT: GRAMPS??!!! Look, kid, you have some talent and enthusiasm, but I don't feel like you're really playing for the band….
YT: Look Mr. Warner, I'm sure you mean well, but I'll have you know, by mid-May of my grade 12 year, I was the best drummer at my high school…..
OT: Have you ever listened to any Sonny Rollins recordings?
YT: Sure, I have his album, "Don't Ask" which was recorded waaaaay back in 1979, and contains his greatest composition, "Disco Monk"! I probably have 2 or 3 other Jazz albums as well. Anyway, why are you asking? I play drums not saxophone!
OT What?? You listen to all the instruments…. Look here young man, when I hear you play, it doesn't feel like you're playing the form of the tunes or representing the soloists…..
YT: Mr. Weber, I'm sure when dinosaurs walked the earth and you were my age, unsolicited advice like this was appreciated but…..
OT: LOOK HERE YOU LITTLE DOUGH-HEAD! YOU'RE NOT PLAYING THE MUSIC OR SUPPORTING THE BAND!!! YOUR TIME SOUNDS LIKE IT"S BEING PLAYED BY A HUMMINGBIRD WITH HEART ARRHYTHMIA AND NO AMBITION IN LIFE! YOUR SOLOS AND TRADES GET EVERYONE LOST, NOT BECAUSE THEY"RE SO COMPLEX BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE ANY MUSICAL SENSE!!! ARE THOSE YOUR DRUMS? BECAUSE THE SNARE SOUNDS LIKE A WET FISH WITH CAT POOP ON IT!!!!!! AND THE SNARE IS THE BEST SOUNDING DRUM ON THE KIT!!!!
YT: YOU'RE JUST A BITTER OLD GEEZER WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND MY GENIUS!!!! I KNOW I'M HIP, BECAUSE I WORRY ABOUT IT CONSTANTLY WHILE I PLAY! BESIDES, I WEIGH ABOUT HALF OF WHAT YOU DO, HAVE LOTS OF (non-grey) HAIR, AND AM REALLY CUTE WHEN I BOUNCE UP AND DOWN ON THE DRUMS FOR NO APPARENT REASON, SO I"LL GET WAY MORE GIGS THAN YOU!!!!!!
OT: Hmmmm…..need a drum tech?
Youngsters: Realize that there are people that have been doing this a lot longer than you and may have learned a thing or two….
Veterans: Appreciate the enthusiasm (and hubris) of youth and realize that wisdom comes with time….
Monday, September 19, 2022
Drummers and Practice Space
I once remember reading someone mentioning something to the effect of that if you go into a public space and play a violin, everyone smiles, but if you play a drum, someone’s going to call the cops! (Thanks Karen!) It’s true. It’s challenging to listen to someone practicing drums, so it’s equally challenging trying to find a place to do so. Here’s some things to consider.
1. Communicate and get along with your neighbours.
Get to know the people near your rehearsal spot. Are there any days/times there’s simply no one around? You may have to adjust when you practice but it's a small price to pay to get at the drums on a consistent basis. Also, if you practice at the place you live, NEVER ISSUE NOISE COMPLAINTS AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBOURS UNLESS IT’S ABSOLUTELY INTOLERABLE. It’s very easy to get into a passive-aggressive situation where things that people would normally ignore if you hadn’t annoyed them, lead to them issuing complaints about you. I get this is tricky, but try and “live and let live”, if possible.
2. Consider all spaces.
Is there some sort of business near you that is closed in the evenings and/or weekends? Perhaps they would like someone occupying part of their space to avoid robberies, make some extra coin, and support the arts? You never know. If you’re a student, can you practice at school? And don’t tell me you never can find a free room. Most of these buildings open by 7am, and in most cases, you could practice BOWLING, let alone drums, IN THE HALLWAYS until about 10am!
3. You may need to “prepare” your instrument.
There are many low volume cymbal and head options these days, or you could even buy an electronic drum set and play with head phones. I’m not crazy about this option, but it’s certainly better than never practicing.
4. If you are storing the gear you use on gigs, you will need 24 hour access.
This complicates matters somewhat. I have both headed out to and returned from gigs at all hours of the day and night, and even loading drums in and out can be quite noisy. Be as flexible as you can, but having your own key and entryway to your space is ideal.
5. Don’t be willing to practice in a space that is excessively dirty, unhealthy, or unsafe.
Asbestos insulation? Super rough neighbourhood? Rickety steep stairs that have you fearing for your life? I’ve been in some bad situations and believe me, it’s just not worth it.
In conclusion, realize that through your life and your various living situations, you will practice in many different types of environments. Flexibility, communication, and patience is the key!
And on a completely unrelated note, here’s a medley of footage of Duncan Hopkins’ 2 guitar band at the Toronto Jazz festival. I was to go into the studio with a version of this band (except with Reg Schwager instead of Sam Dickinson), but my ailing appendix had other plans! Luckily the great Montreal-based drummer Michel Lambert was able to do the recording. It's of mainly Kenny Wheeler's music so it will be great to hear what Michel does with that. :)
Sunday, September 11, 2022
Emotional effects of Music
Monday, September 5, 2022
Music Rooms: What they are and are not
Clubs that host music are an interesting animal, to say the least. They have to sell food/drinks, pay their staff, deal with customers of all kinds, etc. The job of running a club is VERY difficult, especially in this post-lockdown economy. Yet, some clubs distinguish themselves as true MUSIC ROOMS. I would like to discuss what makes these places special, as well as mention what policies and practices prevent a venue from achieving this. As usual. I will "out" the spaces that I feel deserve this designation, and not mention any names of clubs that fail in this regard. You know, "if you can't say anything nice" etc….
I would also like to be clear that not all music rooms are created equal. Some venues are eligible for grants, or have a lot of support from nearby synergistic businesses and so on….
A true music room will make you feel you are part of a team
A venue depends on many people such as bar staff, managers, door people etc. and they all have a role to play. The best venues do not have an "us and them" mentality and understand issues that musicians face. it also goes without saying that musicians need to be sensitive and aware of what the staff are going through and act accordingly. If you're saying to yourself, " Hmmm, the manager is dealing with a group of unruly customers who are refusing to pay their bill and a holding up chairs in a menacing way… I KNOW! This would be a great time to hit him/her up for another gig!" , please think twice, or three times before acting! Also, ALWAYS TIP YOUR SERVER EVEN IF THERE IS A DEAL OR FREE FOOD AND DRINKS! THEY ARE WORKING HARD! …And speaking of which…
A music room makes paying the band a priority
I'm not saying there can never be a tip jar or playing for the door situation, but there should be a guarantee or reasonable expectation of payment. We appreciate that you are running a business BUT if the band is good and professional, they are making your business better!
A music room never descends into an unannounced open mic night or a karaoke free-for-all
If a venue presents music and then lets whoever wants to play and/or sing at the end of the night (that isn't a scheduled open mic night or jam session), what are they saying about the hard-working professional musicians who just presented their music?
A music room helps the musicians be their best
This can be many things. A band menu with more than 3 items, or no band menu at all, just a choice of what to eat. House gear (amps, drums, PA). A staff that won't let the musicians be unnecessarily harassed. Not all music rooms will have all these elements, but even if these things have been thought of, it helps a lot. I've said it before but it bears repeating. If there is house gear, it's the musicians responsibility to treat it with care and respect!
A music room responds to musicians requests for gigs in a reasonably timely manner
Again, I get that people running clubs have very busy lives, and lots of musicians want to work. Then again, I remember contacting a (now defunct) club 7 times for a gig playing for the door on a Monday! This, for me at least, is stretching the bounds of "reasonably"! :)
As I mentioned, I'm not going to "out" any venue that is lacking in the above mentioned elements, but I will mention a few clubs/rooms that exemplify what I have been talking about. They include, but are not limited to:
The Rex Hotel (Toronto)
The Jazz Room (Waterloo)
The Yardbird Suite (Edmonton)
The Bassment (Saskatoon)
There are many more rooms, in Canada and abroad, that also satisfy the qualifications of a Jazz Room, so pardon me for leaving them out.
In conclusion, there was one place I worked, that always made a big deal about the tip jar and talked about "putting a little love in the jar". I've always despised that phrase, so as a response, I give you my beloved Fabs. People who knew a thing or two about playing different styles of music venues…..
Monday, August 29, 2022
Redeveloping "working" chops
One of the things I've noticed has live music work has (thankfully) opened up a bit is how much certain non-playing abilities have atrophied. These include:
-Finding cheap parking in close proximity to the gig
- Finding parking AT ALL!!!
-Figuring out a good route to the venue that doesn't take too long
-Selecting the best drums, cymbals, and sticks for the gig AND NOT FORGETTING ANYTHING *
-If you're the leader, picking sets, which tunes to play, avoiding consecutive keys, grooves, and tempos…
-Negotiating with management
-Paying everyone
The thing is, all these skills, just like musician ones, can get out of shape if we don't use them regularly.
Don't be too impatient with yourself if they have to ramp up again. We were doing this for a long time before it all stopped for 2 years.
* But if you do forget something (say, a snare drum) if you find yourself in the east end of Toronto, go see Nathan at the rental counter of the Scarborough Long and McQuade, he'll fix you up. :)
What a coincidence! Here's me playing with Kirk MacDonald at The Black Bear Pub on Tuesday July 19th, 2022. Oddly enough, I'm playing a rented Mapex Black Panther snare! Even more oddly, this is the last footage of me playing while still having an appendix, as it was removed 2 days after. Life is interesting, that's for sure…..
Monday, August 22, 2022
Recent online stuff
Hello all,
I thought I would post a couple of things from some of my other social media, just because I don't think it garnered enough attention! :)
From a recent tweet……
There's nothing wrong with ambition, as long as it's accompanied by taste….
I posted this for all the naysayers when a musician tries to go beyond their instrument's normal role and experiment. (Hence the ambition.) But it's always good to remember your role in the band and how to carry that out effectively. (Taste.)
Also, here's a few brush patterns I posted on Instagram recently. In all of them, both hands are circling counterclockwise and the right brush is running over the left hand to create a flam sound. I've said it before but I'll say it again; learning to play circles in either direction with both hands is extremely useful! :)
Saturday, August 13, 2022
In Our Right (Hemisphere) Minds: A discussion with Lefties playing Right Handed Drums
I am left handed. I share this distinction with roughly twelve percent of the world, like our friend Ned here.
1.What led you to play a right-handed drum set up?
Todd Bishop:I had about a year or two of lessons before I got a drum set, and was basically playing right handed in my lessons. My older brother is a drummer, and there were always drums around the house, so I think I just copied his set up. There was never much conversation with my teacher or my brother about whether I should play right handed or left handed.
Bun E. Carlos: I got a drum set when I was 12 and I didn't really know how to set them up so I copied what I saw in the catalogue, which was with the image flipped. So I played them left handed for about 4 months, until I saw some bands that all had them set up the other way.
Allison Miller: I had a very surly, ornery, and demanding first teacher and he told me "Nobody is going to wait for you to set up the goddamn drums left-handed at a jam session"! So you're playing right handed." I will add that I was young, so I didn't know any better anyway, and I already had been doing a bit of right hand lead playing prior to any private lessons.
Ben Perowsky: They were set up that way! (Laughs)
2. Have you ever experimented with playing a completely left-handed drum set, e.g. playing hi-hat with your right foot?
TB: I might have done it once just as an experiment. I may have played on a lefty friend's (he was right handed, incidentally) drums in college once or twice. Found it highly weird.
BEC: I never got too lefty with my feet. I never saw a drummer set up completely left handed for years after I started. It just seemed perfectly natural to set up right handed.
AM: I have. In fact, in the last couple of years when I do get time to practice I always designate at least 30 minutes to playing left handed.
BP: I think I could count on one hand the number of times in my life I have sat down at a completely lefty kit, and every time I did it it was so weird!
3. Do you tend to play open handed (left hand on hi-hat and ride) or cross over to play hi-hat? Why?
TB:All of the normal hi-hat/ride cymbal stuff I do with my right hand. Maybe for a moment I'll do it with my left if I drop a stick. The way I play-- and I think many or most jazz musicians play-- is based on a right hand lead on the cymbal— cymbal beat or solo line. It's an entire system. I spend a lot of time developing that, and it would be stupid for me to have to relearn it backwards just to hit something on the left.
BEC: After I had been playing for about a year, I saw Dennis Wilson playing with the Beach Boys, and he played open handed, so I started doing that. But I had already learned to play right hand lead, so I started doing it both ways. When I was 13, 14 when I started it didn't seem very difficult to switch it up. When I'm playing something syncopated on the snare, I tend to play open handed, but if the snare is on 2 & 4, I play hi-hat or cymbal with my right hand. Conversely, Cheap Trick did a handful of gigs opening for Mahavishnu Orchestra and Billy Cobham let me sit at his kit and I added a crash over my hi-hat as well as a ride so I could play more open-handed stuff, although I also realized at that time that my future wasn't playing double bass drums! (Laughs.)
AM: Yes, when I started embracing my left hand side, I felt like I started playing more "open-hearted", and what I mean by that is literally opening up my chest, because my arms aren't crossed. People call that "open-handed' playing, but I like to call it open hearted, and it opened up this whole symmetry of the kit. Previously, I felt like I had been leaning to the right, and it felt really unbalanced, and when I started playing left-handed, it felt like it fixed that balance problem, both physically and spiritually. That said, I find playing left-footed quite difficult. So, it's kind of like Lenny White's approach, where you play left-handed, but right footed.
BM: I play open-handed almost exclusively. It's like I'm left-handed on the top but right-handed on the bottom of the kit. I started taking lessons when I was about twelve, and we stuck with it because I was used to it.
4. Do you tend to lead ideas moving around the kit with your right or left hand? Did you have to train yourself to start things with the opposite hand?
TB: I lead with the left hand a quite a bit when playing on the drums-- toms and snare-- but that really evolved out of a musical idea, like it was an extension of left hand-role stuff. I think I'm loathe to move my right hand off the cymbal, so starting with the left gives me a little head start. It also puts the right hand, still kind of the main hand, in some unusual spots rhythmically. I'm not real clear on it. Nothing to do with being left handed.
BEC: I always led with my left hand, up until about 1990, when I got a house and was able to practice every day, rather than only getting to play when I was on the road, and I worked on leading with my right. But because I usually lead with my left, playing along with Beatles records and playing Ringo licks was always very easy for me.
AM: I tend to lead with the left and play opened handed most when I'm soloing, and this happens more and more often. It feels liberating and open! This is over a long period of time, but I feel like I'm now embracing and learning to go with my natural inclinations as a lefty, rather than a conscious training.
BP: I always played very "left-centred" but I think some more conventional things slipped in there organically, probably just because of the logistics of the kit. Almost everything I could play on the instrument, I would try to play left hand lead first. I studied with Gary Chester at one point, and he was very about being able to play everything both ways. When I started studying formally, I spent about a year playing completely righty, but it didn't stick.
5. Do you think being a left handed player on a right handed drum set gives you any physical advantages over a right handed player?
TB: No, I had to work to get my left hand up to speed like everyone else.
BEC: Nah, not really that I know of, unless you're doing Beatle-type songs.
AM: I think there are many advantages. I think my left hand has always been strong. My technique has been strong. Being able to left hand lead has allowed me to utilize all the options on the kit and get around it freely. I feel very comfortable playing ideas with my left foot, leading with it, and I think it's as fast as my right. Same goes for my hands. So, lots of advantages.
BP: I don't know… I think left foot independence stuff might be a little easier for me.
6. Any disadvantages?
TB: No.
BEC: Yes, I realized that if I wanted to play like Mitch Mitchell, I would have to get drum lessons and do rudiments, and be able to lead everything with my right hand.
AM: No
BP: I will say the other side of the coin is that I have to work extra hard on my right foot. I'm definitely left-footed!
7. Has being left handed influenced whether you use traditional or matched grip?
TB: No. I played traditional grip for awhile in college because it looked cool, and will shed it a little bit every decade or so. I mostly play matched grip because my hands are pretty well trained for that, and it requires less thought.
BEC: I mainly play matched. I tried to hold my sticks traditional like they did in band at school when I started, and it didn't feel right. In 1976 I broke my left arm and when I healed, I pretty much healed it up by playing live when the cast was off, and when I tried to hold the stick marching style after that, it didn't turn as easily as my right hand. I couldn't even play traditional now even if I wanted to.
AM: No, I play mainly traditional these days. I started with that grip and kind of veered away from it for awhile, but then came back to it. I will also switch back and forth and most of the times I don't even think about it.
BP: I play pretty exclusively matched these days. I would like to experiment with playing the "reverse" traditional grip, but have never found the time to do it. The one year I played exclusively righty, I played traditional grip, and really liked it.
8. Have you ever been given negative feedback from anyone (teachers, relatives etc.) for being left handed in general?
TB: Nothing negative, I always got the feeling that it was special and a little bit odd. I never got put fully in the left handed box, I just kind of struggled along doing some ordinary things not very well.
BEC: Oh yeah. They tried to make all the lefties "write correctly" in 3rd grade. They made us all stay after school once a week, and learn how to hold a pen correctly while writing a line on a piece of paper. After about 3 weeks of this, we all decided it was stupid and didn't show up the next time!
AM: No, if anything I've gotten compliments around my left hand chops etc. Sometimes I wonder if I would have had a different journey with my ride cymbal beat (in terms of developing my sound and my swing) if I had played completely left-handed, but I've never had anybody challenge me on this. I think these are all inward questions everyone has to seek out. No regrets!
BP: (Laughs) Not really. Maybe some confused looks or comments, but no real grief about it. Sometimes when I see footage of myself I think, "That is so weird looking!" I guess I give myself grief!
Todd Bishop
Monday, August 8, 2022
Physical logic (Flams)
This, like many of my posts, was inspired by Dan Weiss….
Certain things we do on the drums have a certain "physical logic" to them. Flams are a great example. Creating a good flam usually requires having the sticks at 2 different heights, so it makes sense that we might accent the "main" note of the flam. But, because a flam is a thickening of a stroke , it already is emphasized without an accent. In this set of exercises, we're working on playing unaccented flams surrounded by accented strokes, like so…...
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I have also made some videos utilizing this concept. NOTE: I am still working on this idea myself, so I don't have these perfect, by any stretch of the imagination. I decided, however, to leave them as is. There are a few reasons for this. I, like all practicing and growing musicians, am a work in progress, and I wanted to reflect that. I also think there's too many demonstrations of concepts that are more like ego trips that are designed to distance the person posting from the people reading. This isn't the case. I am just like you and am continuing to learn new things and challenge myself. :)
Monday, August 1, 2022
Thomas Sowell on Maturity
"You have matured when you are no longer concerned with showing how clever you are, and give your full attention to getting the job done right. Many never reach that stage, no matter how old they get. “
Monday, July 25, 2022
The 3 Bloggers: Top 20 Drum Solos
UPDATE: As it turned out Four On The Floor and Cruise Ship Drummer never agreed to this but I'm posting in hopes it will encourage them to post their favourite 20 drum solos, because I'm curious! :)
Once again, in conjunction with Cruise Ship Drummer and Four on the Floor, we will be giving you, our loyal blog readers, 3 views for the price of one. Todd Bishop suggested we list our top 20 drum solos. This should be interesting. To be honest, there are tons of drum solos I don't like much. A lot of them feel to me like they don't have much to do with music. I'm also aware that the importance of a lot of them is pretty subjective. Okay, on to the list. I also have a youtube playlist pasted at the bottom of the post
1. Steps/What Was- Roy Haynes
2. Salsa For Eddie G.- Jack DeJohnette (NOTE; This tune was not available on youtube so I substituted Jack's great solo on "What I Say" by Miles Davis
3. Cherokee- Max Roach
4. Hank's Symphony - Art Blakey
5. Salt Peanuts- Max Roach
6. Crisis- Elvin Jones
7. Salt Peanuts- Philly Joe Jones
8. Moby Dick-John Bonham
9. Seven Steps to heaven- Tony Williams
10. I Want To Be Happy- Jo Jones (Tune starts at 9:00 on playlist)
11. Countdown- Art Taylor
12. I'm an Old Cowhand- Shelly Manne
13. Israel- Paul Motian ( They're actually trading choruses). Is that cheating?
14. The End - Ringo Starr
15. Quartet No. 2 - Steve Gadd
16. Philly Joe - Ah-Leu-Cha (this could also be debated whether it's a "drum solo")
17. West Side Story - Buddy Rich
18. Funky Drummer - Clyde Stubblefield
19. Mars - Rashied Ali
20. Personal Mountains -Jon Christensen (Again this wasn't on youtube so I substituted this one.)
Monday, July 18, 2022
Dig Diz: 2 Chorus drum solo analysis
Greetings. Today I'm posting a run down of a 2 chorus drum solo I did on Mike Murley's composition "Dig Diz" on a quartet gig at the Rex June 5th. Thanks to Elena Kapeleris for capturing it!
The reason I'm going through what I played on this solo is not to say how great I am or anything, but to explain why I played what I did, and the thinking and logic that is going on when I solo. I love Max Roach, Roy Haynes, etc.. but I can't claim to have any idea of what they think about when they play! Also, I will be mainly talking about the why of what I played rather than the what. This isn't a transcription, but rather an overview…. Okay, here it is…..
Monday, July 11, 2022
Habits and more thoughts on Bass/Drums
Just a couple of things that came up from some recent posts. One was my recent posting of the Bernard Purdie interview and his thoughts on China-Type cymbals. He mentions that when you mount them right side up, you have a variety of sounds, whereas when they're upside down, you have one sound only. WOW! OF COURSE!You know, for someone who enjoys getting as many sounds out of drums/cymbals as possible, it surprising this had to be pointed out to me! Anyway, I have started mounting my China-types right side up and am loving the results! :)
This brings up an even more important point though. DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED!!! Question everything. Nothing "has" to be a certain way.
The other thing I was thinking about was my recent post on playing with my bass player friend Drew. It's important for non-bass and drums people to realize that NOBODY except the bassist and drummer know what they are going through, and in most bands, they are doing the heavy lifting! They are stoking the fires in the coal room that are making the engine run! So, take your bassist and drummer's word for it when they talk about the people they work best with. Just as I wouldn't assume I know what truly makes a magical two horn frontline, non-rhythm players (and even pianists and guitarists) shouldn't assume they know on a micro level what is going on in the rhythm section. :)
Play on, good people!
Monday, July 4, 2022
Rick Beato interviews Bernard Purdie
Another great Beato interview. Mr. Purdie discusses elements of his feel, different studio techniques and how he adjusted to them etc. Interestingly, he reverses his tom order like Max and also offers some interesting views on how to mount a Chine-type cymbal. Lots to learn from this drumming giant!
Monday, June 27, 2022
Lee Morgan with the Oscar Peterson trio
Music scenes are funny. Some players work together constantly and rarely work with another group of musicians. To the best of my knowledge, the following footage is the only time that Lee Morgan ever worked with O.P.'s trio. Enjoy!